REAL AMERICA — Dan Ball W/ Dr. Carol Swain, 6/26/25 

Dr. Carol Swain is a political commentator, author, Distinguished Senior Fellow in Constitutional Studies with the Texas Public Policy Foundation and a former tenured professor at Vanderbilt and Princeton universities. Her most recent books are Diversity without Discrimination: How to Promote a Culture of Unity in a Post-DEI/Affirmative Action World (2025), The Gay Affair: Harvard, Plagiarism, and the Death of Academic Integrity (2025) and Black Eye for America: How Critical Race Theory is Burning Down the House (Co-authored with Dr. Chris Schorr, 2021).